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war
October 27th, 2011, 02:49 AM
Will you be adding a ring0 protection?
How many times has x22 been detected?
How will you make VAC preventions in the future with the new VAC system coming (VAC 3)


1. What I mean by this, is that I have seen that other providers are making a ring0 overlay to protect against the new VAC system. So what I mean by that it is just hiding it in a kernal driver so that VAC can't scan it - ring0 + ring3, So the person will run the ring0 driver then the cheat so that it can't find the process, hooks, or however you hook the cheat into the game.

2. Just wondering how many times it was detected?

3. What will be your focus on the new VAC system that WAV provided a DLL too. What I mean is are you looking into the new VAC system and finding way's to protect it or will you do what all the other company's are doing which is to make VAC not scan the cheat / Kernal driver?

Thanks,
War

Amduscia
October 27th, 2011, 02:56 AM
1. Use the search function, ring0 isn't better and runs only on 32 Bit systems, and it won't come.
2. The Hack is now since 10 Months undetected since the new protection. (Use the search function again please)
3. Seriously wtf? VAC 3 is already out and we are safe.

war
October 27th, 2011, 03:12 AM
1. Use the search function, ring0 isn't better and runs only on 32 Bit systems, and it won't come.
2. The Hack is now since 10 Months undetected since the new protection. (Use the search function again please)
3. Seriously wtf? VAC 3 is already out and we are safe.

Sir the full functions of VAC 3 have not been implanted please do more research and ring0 can be used for 64bit computers I will not name any company's, but it can be done. Also if you do some more research you will see more company's are making a ring0 kernal driver so that it may hide the cheat. ok so let's do some explaining here...

1. You code the kernal driver, yes even for 64bit.
2. You run the ring0 / kernal driver so that it will stop VAC from scanning it.
3. The cheat will still be ring3 the ring0 is just protection to stop VAC from patching / scanning the cheat.
-So in the end its like this: Protection - Kernal driver, Cheat - ring3

Please let x22 answer this, no offence to anyone it's just he know's a lot more about what I am getting into here.

Amduscia
October 27th, 2011, 03:15 AM
Sir the full functions of VAC 3 have not been implanted please do more research and ring0 can be used for 64bit computers I will not name any company's, but it can be done. Also if you do some more research you will see more company's are making a ring0 kernal driver so that it may hide the cheat. ok so let's do some explaining here...

1. You code the kernal driver, yes even for 64bit.
2. You run the ring0 / kernal driver so that it will stop VAC from scanning it.
3. The cheat will still be ring3 the ring0 is just protection to stop VAC from patching / scanning the cheat.
-So in the end its like this: Protection - Kernal driver, Cheat - ring3

Please let x22 answer this, no offence to anyone it's just he know's a lot more about what I am getting into here.


I researched, okay? And there are 100 Threads about ring0 here, and the Team already stated that it WON'T come. VAC 3 is full implemented. And I think I know which site you mean, but they aren't even good lol, x22 is the best Coder out there, with the lowest detection rate.

war
October 27th, 2011, 03:18 AM
I researched, okay? And there are 100 Threads about ring0 here, and the Team already stated that it WON'T come. VAC 3 is full implemented. And I think I know which site you mean, but they aren't even good lol, x22 is the best Coder out there, with the lowest detection rate.

That was stated before, but if you look more into VAC 3 it has the potential to implant more security or it would just be another build of VAC 2. I would also like to say if you think I'm talking about just the one company that has it right now I'm not, there are many more that are doing this so that they won't become patched and they can focus more on the cheat.

Also it's not a team if there is only "one" coder the rest is "staff" that just control the people here from spamming and acting stupid, they have nothing to do with implanting security or adding to the cheats.

Thanks,
War

Amduscia
October 27th, 2011, 03:27 AM
Yep, then don't believe me, and keep talking about your "knowledge". And They aren't only for controlling the People here. Like I said, use the search function, and your questions get answered, but you don't want, and x22 and his Team will tell you the same.

RipperHex
October 27th, 2011, 03:56 AM
This is for you Amdu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83M60qeRyMc

Remi
October 27th, 2011, 04:19 AM
That was stated before, but if you look more into VAC 3 it has the potential to implant more security or it would just be another build of VAC 2. I would also like to say if you think I'm talking about just the one company that has it right now I'm not, there are many more that are doing this so that they won't become patched and they can focus more on the cheat.

Also it's not a team if there is only "one" coder the rest is "staff" that just control the people here from spamming and acting stupid, they have nothing to do with implanting security or adding to the cheats.

Thanks,
War

You sound like an overall asshole.

He tried to answer your question, and you say he is wrong.. What the hell kind of logic is that?

war
October 27th, 2011, 04:26 AM
You sound like an overall asshole.

He tried to answer your question, and you say he is wrong.. What the hell kind of logic is that?

No, Also most of his stuff was incorrect, he has no idea what he is talking about and think's ring0 means shit cheat's when yet it is more used for security. Also I respected what he said, but he wasn't giving the answer, he was just saying from what he heard from before.

Note: I'm not trying to be rude or anything I just want a proper answer from a "coder" not "staff" and not "members".

Thanks,
War

Amduscia
October 27th, 2011, 05:05 AM
This is for you Amdu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83M60qeRyMc


Haha, thanks. I heard that Loop for 3 Hours.



@War

Yes I am at all wrong, and you are the Omniscient. *sarcasm*

Btw, Remi is right with what he is saying.

war
October 27th, 2011, 05:09 AM
Haha, thanks. I heard that Loop for 3 Hours.



@War

Yes I am at all wrong, and you are the Omniscient.

Btw, Remi is right with what he is saying.

I'm not saying your wrong. I understand and accept what you are saying, but you still think that VAC 3 is done being updated and that they won't look into new way's of stopping hacks? If you are a crazy person. VAC 3 is going to have more security then any other VAC before it. Sorry if you think I was being rude to you, when yet I wasn't trying to be.

Thanks,
War

Remi
October 27th, 2011, 05:42 AM
No, Also most of his stuff was incorrect, he has no idea what he is talking about and think's ring0 means shit cheat's when yet it is more used for security. Also I respected what he said, but he wasn't giving the answer, he was just saying from what he heard from before.

Note: I'm not trying to be rude or anything I just want a proper answer from a "coder" not "staff" and not "members".

Thanks,
War

Actually, kernal mode cheats are restricted on what they can accomplish.. He is correct.

gaynigga
October 27th, 2011, 05:57 AM
Actually, kernal mode cheats are restricted on what they can accomplish.. He is correct.

god graydon are you a tool on every forum you go to

the guy's saying x22 should develop a ring0 anti-anticheat driver in addition to his current offerings

that'd allow the cheats to stay usermode and hide the memory they occupy

it's completely pointless as x22 has never had a problem with detection, but still.

Deadfreak
October 27th, 2011, 06:56 AM
Yawn... If you have no idea what you are talking about, then please refrain from posting and use search... First of all our "Staff" and "Mods" aren't just forum puppets, i probably know more about coding than you do. Now we have discussed this useless topic of Ring 0 many many many times. We have no use for it since we can remain undetected without the need of Ring 0 driver based coding... VAC3 is already implemented and out, the VAC3 driver automatically loads randomly into CSS for example. Maybe you didn't read the post date on that other forum? Ring 0 is a big gimmick for guys who can't make their cheats undetected for long, also not to mention Ring 0 can be detected and has been, ask the other cheat providers.

Threads:
http://shop.x22cheats.com/showpost.php?p=106423&postcount=22
http://shop.x22cheats.com/showpost.php?p=264020&postcount=2

war
October 27th, 2011, 02:07 PM
Yawn... If you have no idea what you are talking about, then please refrain from posting and use search... First of all our "Staff" and "Mods" aren't just forum puppets, i probably know more about coding than you do. Now we have discussed this useless topic of Ring 0 many many many times. We have no use for it since we can remain undetected without the need of Ring 0 driver based coding... VAC3 is already implemented and out, the VAC3 driver automatically loads randomly into CSS for example. Maybe you didn't read the post date on that other forum? Ring 0 is a big gimmick for guys who can't make their cheats undetected for long, also not to mention Ring 0 can be detected and has been, ask the other cheat providers.

Threads:
http://shop.x22cheats.com/showpost.php?p=106423&postcount=22
http://shop.x22cheats.com/showpost.php?p=264020&postcount=2
I'm not saying staff is puppets at all, because you do protect the forum, but VAC 3 is not a gimmick nor has it been another VAC 2 update, VAC 3 is suppose to become more strong and will be easy to update as many have said.

Thanks,
War

B&B
October 27th, 2011, 02:13 PM
1. ring0 isn't better

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Amduscia
October 27th, 2011, 02:14 PM
I'm not saying staff is puppets at all, because you do protect the forum, but VAC 3 is not a gimmick nor has it been another VAC 2 update, VAC 3 is suppose to become more strong and will be easy to update as many have said and no offence to you but you though there was only VAC, which is sad for a mod. Also you may know a little coding but I have been studying VAC for a year and a half now. I will admit that I don't know everything nor will I ever, and I know that you will try to say you didn't say that you said that there was only a VAC and not VAC 1 and VAC 2.

Thanks,
War

I think you don't want to understand. A Staff Member answered now your questions and said the same like me. I think this is useless since you don't want to understand this.

@B&B Congratulations, you just joined this thread to troll, I reported your post.

war
October 27th, 2011, 02:39 PM
I think you don't want to understand. A Staff Member answered now your questions and said the same like me. I think this is useless since you don't want to understand this.

@B&B Congratulations, you just joined this thread to troll, I reported your post.

I understand and accept, I just want to know what he will do when VAC 3 becomes more strong and detects it... Also as I said before I'm sorry for acting rude it's just that people I don't think get what I was getting at. I don't want a pure ring0 cheat.

Thanks,
War

doxis
October 27th, 2011, 03:40 PM
Ehm, prevention tool will automatic crash the game of something is able to be detected, so you dont have to worry about vac updates and ring0 protection.
Hope you understand this.
This cheat dont need ring0 because x22 already made an nice "tool" as i said before.

Best regards
Doxis

PuffyFunnyBunny
October 27th, 2011, 03:52 PM
I understand and accept, I just want to know what he will do when VAC 3 becomes more strong and detects it... Also as I said before I'm sorry for acting rude it's just that people I don't think get what I was getting at. I don't want a pure ring0 cheat.

Thanks,
War

IFF the cheat gets detected the tool x22 have made will crash your game so you cant play when VAC has updated,,
Also Ring0 is not the necessarily best way to code cheats..

doxis
October 27th, 2011, 03:54 PM
Thread request to be closed.
Questions answered many times already.
Best regards
Doxis

Apocaliptica
October 27th, 2011, 04:01 PM
o.O

closed.

soulstar
October 27th, 2011, 04:03 PM
Who says that VAC3 becomes even stronger? Its actually already pretty good, but still limited in its functions. It detected a so called ring 0 protection cheat, but couldnt detect us which has several reasons. You shouldnt believe the ring0 mystery. It has some certain advantages, but also disadvantages like everything.