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grinfeld
February 10th, 2017, 12:33 AM
Hey every0one !

Today i Faced with new trend in CS Go community like FIXCSGO. It all started from Russian , that famous youtubers started using cheats and ask Volvo to create new VAC that make CSGO great again .

This is the example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0B3siLIfXI

So , what do you think, will Gabe Start new war VAC vs Cheats ? Or what ? Just interesting to see your opinion.
In my opinion - nothing will change cuz Gabe is lazy as fuck.

DarthVader
February 10th, 2017, 04:17 AM
Dont think valve cares about the anti chest right now. They probably work on New Weapon Sounds or chicken skins instead. o.O

0x33c
February 10th, 2017, 05:22 AM
if new VAC is comming than R.I.P. x22 like x22 EAC support xD

But the reality is all about money...

With VAC3:
1. Bann waves
But the fact is if Gaben brings out a new VAC than they dont get so much money like now, VAC not working -> ban wave (from 1 day VAC works) -> 20000x 8-13€ = 160000€-260000€ per Ban wave
And the second fact is => ban wave -> all banned inventorys cleared -> so the steammarket get less items -> higher prices for each item -> more profit from the % after a market buy -> $$$GABEN$$$

2. C&P bans
A kid think oh VAC is bad i go to XXXXXXXXX.com and download a Source than compile with visual studio and HEY i got a private cheat -> 3days later BAN! -> (than the ban wave fact is comming up)

With new VAC:
1. Ban waves
One big ban wave after new VAC release -> no public cheat avable (to much work for hide the hack from coder) -> Steam dont sell acc´s anymore because all/std cheaters dont need smurf (to bad without hack[dont want to trigger someone here]) -> more items on market because no banned acc´s -> no profit 4 VOLVO

2. C&P bans
A kid think oh new VAC is realy good i dont try to create my own cheat... -> Story end (no profit 4 VOLVO)

Prozac SK
February 10th, 2017, 10:11 AM
we want see own legs on CSGO for make a new skins for shoes instead better AC xD

ThisKillcam
February 10th, 2017, 05:07 PM
When they create something like VAC4, then everybody have to wait till x22 change the inject method to something that inject into your av, etc(like cheats that work with esea). To this I don't think they make something complex, just a ac like the one from faceit or esea.

gcshax
February 10th, 2017, 08:28 PM
Let me be honest, the war of Cheat vs Anti Cheat is favorable to Cheat side, and i will explain why.
The anti cheat must follow some laws of privacy, they don't wanna send sensible data that will cause the company to be sued, while the cheat itself don't need to send data back, so one less thing to worry about.
The anti cheat should consider faulty hardware and software and be reliable, and any performance drop is something to be priority, on the cheat side if the triggerbot cause your fps to drop.
One rule of softwares: who start first will have control over the rest, so if the anti cheat loads after the cheat loads, the cheat have ways to bypass and manipulate the anti cheat,and it can reach the point of virtualization where the anti cheat would not be able to differentiate the cheat from the hypervisor, one big proof of this is right here, xClient must be launched without steam running, and you should launch steam after you press the load.
Injecting on the Anti virus software so the anti virus process would have one handle open to the game process so the anti cheat wouldn't be able to differentiate if its a legitimate anti virus scan of the memory or a cheat reading memory, however there's a lot of ways to do the trick.
In the past i sugested to block the vac module from being loaded and emulate what the vac module answer to the server to avoid the server kicking you,it would require a ton of work and one update might break it, however its another way to do things.
So i guess even if valve releases a new anti cheat this would mean that x22 would figure a way to avoid it.
Nothing in the world is 100% safe,detectable,undetectable,etc... the only sure thing on life is death.

ThisKillcam
February 10th, 2017, 09:51 PM
Let me be honest, the war of Cheat vs Anti Cheat is favorable to Cheat side, and i will explain why.
The anti cheat must follow some laws of privacy, they don't wanna send sensible data that will cause the company to be sued, while the cheat itself don't need to send data back, so one less thing to worry about.
The anti cheat should consider faulty hardware and software and be reliable, and any performance drop is something to be priority, on the cheat side if the triggerbot cause your fps to drop.
One rule of softwares: who start first will have control over the rest, so if the anti cheat loads after the cheat loads, the cheat have ways to bypass and manipulate the anti cheat,and it can reach the point of virtualization where the anti cheat would not be able to differentiate the cheat from the hypervisor, one big proof of this is right here, xClient must be launched without steam running, and you should launch steam after you press the load.
Injecting on the Anti virus software so the anti virus process would have one handle open to the game process so the anti cheat wouldn't be able to differentiate if its a legitimate anti virus scan of the memory or a cheat reading memory, however there's a lot of ways to do the trick.
In the past i sugested to block the vac module from being loaded and emulate what the vac module answer to the server to avoid the server kicking you,it would require a ton of work and one update might break it, however its another way to do things.
So i guess even if valve releases a new anti cheat this would mean that x22 would figure a way to avoid it.
Nothing in the world is 100% safe,detectable,undetectable,etc... the only sure thing on life is death.

Good explanation, thanks(no sarcasm lol)!

Oz4rUS
February 10th, 2017, 11:37 PM
vac will always be bypassed :)

and i highly doubt they will make a new AC because they are money whores

Mixzzy
February 11th, 2017, 02:17 AM
Sometime ago a valve employee did say that one huge priority for 2017 was the anti cheat, so I'm 75% sure that they will make improvements to it. People take it to seriously when it comes to ''money''. Sure, they want to make money, but they have so much already i doubt they would risk loosing many players because they dont want to improve their AC which probably isn't that much of a big task, i imagine make Prime users sign up to TOS which allows vac to do things like heuristic scans (no idea how AC's work so im guessing its like an anti virus).

imo anyways

Icecold675
February 11th, 2017, 10:35 PM
if they made so much already and wnated to spend it to not lose many players they would have bought the rights on the old sounds again instead of making new ones they dont have to pay as much for or give the community 128 tick servers/fix performance problems or bugs but they dont do that. its all about $$$ in the end

Mixzzy
February 12th, 2017, 02:44 AM
i mean they are a business, depending on which sector (private, public or nonprofit). Obviously valve in this case is a private business, simple business, not going to explain. They are there to make profit, as much as possible, whatever it takes.
i mean there was 128 tick servers from what i remember, but players cried about lagging because 128 tick servers needed better PC's, which now it wouldnt probably have much of an impact.

So yes, you're right on the case that they only care about money, but to get that money they have to give something back, and thats why i think they will still go on and do improvements to the AC. I doubt its going to be anything big.